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on estate tax alone as of tuesday, the estate tax she thresholds go from 5,000 exclusion to 30% tax rate. to $1 million and 50% tax rate who can do estate planning. >> and neither side can make any headway. over and over again. you ask the one side, say democrats. if the republicans gave you everything you wanted on tax hikes, do you could any entitlement reform? and the vast majority said no. and you turn to republicans, what if they embraced representative ryan's plans? would you raise taxes on anybody and a lot of them say no. so neither side will give that little bit that we know each side has to have because they want to have something, what do you get? i don't see how harry reid who hasn't passed a budget in years manages to come up with something by sunday night. >> we look at how monday will turn out. a lot of developments over the weekend will determine that. guys, it's not going to be an easy open, that's for sure, on monday. >> i'm wondering what it will look like. at the same time, when you ask the question, maybe it's better -- it's a bad deal worse than no deal? president o
on estate tax alone as of tuesday, the estate tax she thresholds go from 5,000 exclusion to 30% tax rate. to $1 million and 50% tax rate who can do estate planning. >> and neither side can make any headway. over and over again. you ask the one side, say democrats. if the republicans gave you everything you wanted on tax hikes, do you could any entitlement reform? and the vast majority said no. and you turn to republicans, what if they embraced representative ryan's plans? would you raise...
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income taxes are not the only major issues here. we go over the cliff, the tax rate on most capital gains would go from 15 to 20%. dividends would now be taxed like regular income instead of capital ganls. the inheritance tax, that would go from 35% on estates over $5 million to 55% on estates over a million bucks. so a lot of implications here not just on regular income taxes. michelle. >> got it, jackie. good way to lay out the situation. investors acting on their fiscal cliff nerves. this is the first time since the dow has dipped. a deal has been priced in. a lot of people thought something was going to happen. harry reid said we're probably going over the cliff. check out the wall street fear index. they have spiked above 20 for the first time since july. if this is what we're facing, how much worse can the fall get? jackie laid it all out, right? the average individual will have a lot less money to spend and we are a consumer-driven economy. a lot of action down there on the floor. >> people excited. >> is the market acting in
income taxes are not the only major issues here. we go over the cliff, the tax rate on most capital gains would go from 15 to 20%. dividends would now be taxed like regular income instead of capital ganls. the inheritance tax, that would go from 35% on estates over $5 million to 55% on estates over a million bucks. so a lot of implications here not just on regular income taxes. michelle. >> got it, jackie. good way to lay out the situation. investors acting on their fiscal cliff nerves....
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tax patch purpose and those are xhenkful. i'll still hike to see more spending cuts. >> what does the president need to do to get you to virtually come to the people and vote yes. the helicopter has to get off the platform since the election, solving or debt and deficit problem knows that you can't cole of our debt problem before it is not faeblible. >> the president arrived at 3310:00 am and made calls to the house and senate leadership as the negotiations continued. do you sense, sir, there is a period of compromise, where nobody was talking and everybody was holding the ground firmly? do you have a greater sense of comp moise as we into -- the speaker said the president didn't next any dale or the compromise so i ge he'll take that up in the shat, hopefully vote for it. >> part part of the problem last week was the conservative wing of the party that i put you in for plan "b," and it was seening a something of a mutiny against john boehner at that point. so i'ming what is do you feel the support think of wing of the part i
tax patch purpose and those are xhenkful. i'll still hike to see more spending cuts. >> what does the president need to do to get you to virtually come to the people and vote yes. the helicopter has to get off the platform since the election, solving or debt and deficit problem knows that you can't cole of our debt problem before it is not faeblible. >> the president arrived at 3310:00 am and made calls to the house and senate leadership as the negotiations continued. do you sense,...
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hour, dividend taxes are not taxed at 15% but are double taxed. companies have to pay taxes on their profits before distributing them as dividends. dividends are double taxed and will almost be triple taxed unless we do something in washington. all those million of dividend investors should be really angry. bad for them but it's bad for the economy. >> realistically though could we really expect it to go to 39.6, there's got to be some compromise in there somewhere. i wouldn't think the republicans would let it go much higher. >> you look at it. i don't think washington guess what this does. look at the effective rate. right now if i pay $1 as a public or private company and pay $1 a earnings as interest, it's taxed 18% higher effectively. >> right. >> so what does that do? that creates something called a debt bias. debt bias is bad for our economy. right now we have three things, too many debt in our economy, not enough job creation and need more income for retirees. tacking dividends is going to make all of those situations worse. >> to pare thi
hour, dividend taxes are not taxed at 15% but are double taxed. companies have to pay taxes on their profits before distributing them as dividends. dividends are double taxed and will almost be triple taxed unless we do something in washington. all those million of dividend investors should be really angry. bad for them but it's bad for the economy. >> realistically though could we really expect it to go to 39.6, there's got to be some compromise in there somewhere. i wouldn't think the...
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>> don't tax me. tax the guy behind the tree. that's what we're faced with. everybody wants to pay lower taxes and get more services if you're in defense, you say, we need the money. if you're in agriculture, you see we need subsidized crop insurance. where does it end? in montana, we've had eight years of -- they're not willing to do that in washington, d.c. they just kick the can down the road. >> what does it mean in terms of federal aid or reduction in federal aid if we go over the fiscal cliff and even if we don't go over the cliff, and they come up with a bandaid, you risk losing more federal aid down the road, don't you? >> no question about you. we're a rural state. montana is the size of pefl r. -- pennsylvania, new york. there are federal dollars that pay for maintaining those highways. you can't have a million people pay for all those highways because it connects the entire country. you have forest service, 30% of the land is owned by the federal government. so there's a lot of federal dollars that come to montana. that's part of the system. >> wha
>> don't tax me. tax the guy behind the tree. that's what we're faced with. everybody wants to pay lower taxes and get more services if you're in defense, you say, we need the money. if you're in agriculture, you see we need subsidized crop insurance. where does it end? in montana, we've had eight years of -- they're not willing to do that in washington, d.c. they just kick the can down the road. >> what does it mean in terms of federal aid or reduction in federal aid if we go over...
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they want to raise taxes on somebody. so is there any possibility that either side will budge on those two issues? >> we'll have to wait and see what happens. the president, as funny as it sounds, at the end of the press conference came out and said if the senate can't get this done, let's do the bare minimum, my plan and let's raise taxes on $250,000 and do that if you can't reach some other agreement. it's absurd on this. >> if there were real entitlement reform -- >> and there were real entitlement reform, would you be willing to raise taxes on anybody just so the democrats could save face and say they got a deal? >> it would have to be some pretty serious entitlement. >> like what? like what? >> we'll have to wait and see how that comes out. >> see, that's the problem? >> let's take the basics. you have food stamp issues with a lot of food stamp fraud that's out there and you have people certified to get food stamps and i don't have an issue with someone who has an actual need and qualifies for it. i have a real issue
they want to raise taxes on somebody. so is there any possibility that either side will budge on those two issues? >> we'll have to wait and see what happens. the president, as funny as it sounds, at the end of the press conference came out and said if the senate can't get this done, let's do the bare minimum, my plan and let's raise taxes on $250,000 and do that if you can't reach some other agreement. it's absurd on this. >> if there were real entitlement reform -- >> and...
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while the talking heads on tv go on about tax cuts for the rich and we get them, will we not get them, had is about spending and have to address spending now. >> when you read his moats, the -- outline that he sends to harry reid, he says the government is spending $100 billion more per month than what it brings in. i mean, it is really incredible. what does this mean for the fiscal cliff discussions? >> well, i don't think it really means a whole lot. i think it is -- sort of the white house's way, treasurer's way, of putting extra pressure on the people in the building behind us. by the way, none of them are there. i'm not sure that's really going to work, frankly. and -- i -- john, our colleague john harwood is exactly right. this is not a surprise. we knew this was coming. the question that it is, you know, three days -- thee business days, as you say before, the actual deadline itself, that's disconcerting. but -- again, it is not surprising. i don't think it has any -- will peak the negotiations at all, frankly. not at all. >> what about the secretary's use of this phrase -- the
while the talking heads on tv go on about tax cuts for the rich and we get them, will we not get them, had is about spending and have to address spending now. >> when you read his moats, the -- outline that he sends to harry reid, he says the government is spending $100 billion more per month than what it brings in. i mean, it is really incredible. what does this mean for the fiscal cliff discussions? >> well, i don't think it really means a whole lot. i think it is -- sort of the...
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. >> it's been all about taxes. >> all about raising taxes. >> there's this obsession with raising taxes. >> it was to go after school lunches and elderly care, health care for poor kids and increased spending. >> no, no, no, they want entitlement reform, joy ann. why this obsession with cutting old people's medicare? >> it's not an obsession about cutting benefits to the elderly, joy ann. it's about reforming medicare over time so at some point in the future we don't tell an 80-year-old you know what? you're not going get the medicare cha you thought you would have. this is about not hurting the elderly. >> the republican solution is to hand 80-year-olds a voucher and saying good luck, go into the markets and see what you can get. >> 80-year-olds are not any part of it. they're 20, 30 years from now. the president's idea of spending cuts had to do with $700 billion worth of medicare cuts in the past two years ago. >> and paul ryan endorsed it. >> paul ryan endorsed it and that was in ryan's plan. thanks, guys. >> there was another surprise coming out of washington today. the unexpected
. >> it's been all about taxes. >> all about raising taxes. >> there's this obsession with raising taxes. >> it was to go after school lunches and elderly care, health care for poor kids and increased spending. >> no, no, no, they want entitlement reform, joy ann. why this obsession with cutting old people's medicare? >> it's not an obsession about cutting benefits to the elderly, joy ann. it's about reforming medicare over time so at some point in the future...
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, maybe even higher corporate taxes, lower government spending. i mean, that in and of itself is an austerity plan that we're waiting for, isn't it? >> i don't think it's necessarily austerity. the reductions in spending over time can happen over time, the way our government keeps track is over a decade. >> right. >> so we don't need to do it all today, and as far as higher taxes go, there's a group of people who will sign this pledge not to raise taxes, and, you know, more than two-thirds are millionaires who said, you know what, we'll pay more taxes because in the end analysis, the investment we would make in paying more in taxes to get the economy going will return in wealth very quickly if we get the economy back to where it should be. >> there's a very good article on cnbc.com about the possibility that congress might decide to start tax is employer-sponsored health insurance. do you think that's a possibility, and what impact would that have on you? >> everything needs to be on the table. if we're going to have a good solution that gets at o
, maybe even higher corporate taxes, lower government spending. i mean, that in and of itself is an austerity plan that we're waiting for, isn't it? >> i don't think it's necessarily austerity. the reductions in spending over time can happen over time, the way our government keeps track is over a decade. >> right. >> so we don't need to do it all today, and as far as higher taxes go, there's a group of people who will sign this pledge not to raise taxes, and, you know, more...
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care tax. the occupy movement will not return with the same strength but talk of fat cats and pluto krats in the media will reduce conspicuous consumption. the rich will put less in u.s. stocks and more towards hard assets. real estate and high end collectibles. it will be funded by the overseas rich with some homes selling for more than $100 million. luxury spending will remain weak largely because of weakness in china. bright spots will be high end luxury like lbmh and experiences like travel and entertainment. wealth will become quieter. call it stealth wealth. the big spending and big luxuries will be behind closed doors and kitchens like this could become the new status symbol. >>> now that robert has given us his pricey predictions, we would like to provide you with what we think are some promising predictions for 2013. >> all right. we're laying them out. let's take a look at what we've got, all right? to kick start the predictions, mandy. i've got a hunch that the dow will hit a record
care tax. the occupy movement will not return with the same strength but talk of fat cats and pluto krats in the media will reduce conspicuous consumption. the rich will put less in u.s. stocks and more towards hard assets. real estate and high end collectibles. it will be funded by the overseas rich with some homes selling for more than $100 million. luxury spending will remain weak largely because of weakness in china. bright spots will be high end luxury like lbmh and experiences like travel...
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we get to january and dems come in with a proposal to cut taxes on people making below half a million dollars. everyone has to vote that through. that will be bullish for the market. these are the type of things to think about. >> are you shopping around for what you think are bargains on the market? >> we closed our books a couple days ago. this is not my type of administrati atmosphere. i called it garbage-time on the web. any trading now in size probably has to. for most, it's a better bet to allow the higher beta stocks to move and sit tight. >> we're sticking with our long positions as we discussed. we're really taking up our shorts. the reason being, it looks as if we're going over the cliff. i don't think any thinks it's a long term problem. when the resolution comes, like doc said you will get a rally. we are sticking with long runs and picked up vix and s&p shorts and increased short positions against every one of our longs and will be there when the market rallies but protected for right now. >> you paid a little more than you would have a few days ago. the vix fear gauge ha
we get to january and dems come in with a proposal to cut taxes on people making below half a million dollars. everyone has to vote that through. that will be bullish for the market. these are the type of things to think about. >> are you shopping around for what you think are bargains on the market? >> we closed our books a couple days ago. this is not my type of administrati atmosphere. i called it garbage-time on the web. any trading now in size probably has to. for most, it's a...
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you'll see estate taxes go up, investment taxes go up. there is an endless list of expiring provisions of law that will, in fact, expire if nothing is done. and i think even if something is done at this point, what you're looking at is something very scaled back, something very small and congress will have to come back next year and take a look at trying to get to some of those other issues. >> alistair here. that sounds about right to me, assuming that that scenario is how things play out. what sort of impact medium term do you think this is going to have on consumer and corporate confidence in america, given that the fiscal cliff is clearly weighed heavily on both of those in recent months? >> the sad thing, you know, from an observer's standpoint here is that there isn't much corporate or consumer confidence in the american government. and it's proved itself dysfunctional time and again over the last couple of years. what you hear now is not how people believe that there's going to be some last-minute deal, but how they remember the ti
you'll see estate taxes go up, investment taxes go up. there is an endless list of expiring provisions of law that will, in fact, expire if nothing is done. and i think even if something is done at this point, what you're looking at is something very scaled back, something very small and congress will have to come back next year and take a look at trying to get to some of those other issues. >> alistair here. that sounds about right to me, assuming that that scenario is how things play...
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taxes should not go up for 98% of the people. you have wilful minorities in this house and in the senate, who want to make certain taxes stay lower for the top 2%. in a real world, most of the time you'd be able to resolve that. it's the really strange fiscal politics of washington that's been doctrinaire on the revenue side. we all understood we have spending to balance. the president put $400 billion of reductions in medicare savings on the table. the majority of americans, including romney voters understand the obvious, that is revenues have to be part of the equation. this is a question -- why can't we do it is the head scratching question for most people. it's really part of the institution institutional paralysis of congress, you have a filibuster that enables the minority to work their will and stop even consideration of legislation. in the house, the speaker has to bite the bullet and put on the floor a bill that's going to get significant democratic support and some republican support. that's the only way to do what the
taxes should not go up for 98% of the people. you have wilful minorities in this house and in the senate, who want to make certain taxes stay lower for the top 2%. in a real world, most of the time you'd be able to resolve that. it's the really strange fiscal politics of washington that's been doctrinaire on the revenue side. we all understood we have spending to balance. the president put $400 billion of reductions in medicare savings on the table. the majority of americans, including romney...
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or have much of an impact as much as the investment related taxes will like when dividend taxes go to 44% automatically. >> yeah. >> which is going to happen when we go over the fiscal cliff. capital gains going up to ordinary income of 39.6. what would you say is a realistic level for those two taxes? >> well, i don't know. >> i mean once they get a deal. >> decide for us, quint. >> yeah. well, probably in the 40s right? i think ultimately -- >> 40s? that is going to be a problem for the market. >> yes, it is. that is why i think running out and hiding into dividend paying stock is not the answer. when this really sets in that we're not going to have a deal the market is going to come off. believe it or not when it comes off those are still the areas that i would look because where are you going to find, you know, an intel for example yielding 4.5%, loads of cash on the balance sheet, and even if it gets taken down under $20 a share, very healthy company, excellent dividend yield. >> yes. >> so i would rather have that even if i'm paying a higher tax on it than be sitting in cash yie
or have much of an impact as much as the investment related taxes will like when dividend taxes go to 44% automatically. >> yeah. >> which is going to happen when we go over the fiscal cliff. capital gains going up to ordinary income of 39.6. what would you say is a realistic level for those two taxes? >> well, i don't know. >> i mean once they get a deal. >> decide for us, quint. >> yeah. well, probably in the 40s right? i think ultimately -- >> 40s?...
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the obama tax cuts. i'm calling it first. the obama tax cuts. he's going to write a tax cut bill, send it up to the hill, and they're going to pass it. >> expires on january 2nd. >> do we make them permanent, jimmy? 98% of them will be made permanent? >> i hope not. that is not the job of the government. the government's job is to raise taxes and to lower taxes when our economy needs it. that's what the senate does. john breaux, former senator john breaux from louisiana sat on the floor during the 2001 tax bill and said our job is to raise taxes when they need to be raised and lower them when they need to be lowered. that's the senate and the house's job. >> but, one man's -- is another man's -- if you look at the laugher curve you don't know when to raise and when to lower at this point. >> president obama kept bush's taxes in for two years. >> i know. >> but suddenly, you know, democrats like you love the 98%, and you hate the 2%. it's very weird. >> tell him, joe. >> don't hate the 2%. i'm not a self-
the obama tax cuts. i'm calling it first. the obama tax cuts. he's going to write a tax cut bill, send it up to the hill, and they're going to pass it. >> expires on january 2nd. >> do we make them permanent, jimmy? 98% of them will be made permanent? >> i hope not. that is not the job of the government. the government's job is to raise taxes and to lower taxes when our economy needs it. that's what the senate does. john breaux, former senator john breaux from louisiana sat on...
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taxes go up, then you go the republicans in position where they're getting the lower taxes. then patti murray. >> i just hope that people are paying attention that what we are seeing is basically the best world for politicians, they put off the and then everybody is going to pretend, oh, it's something happened. and nobody in the meantime is representing the interest of the american people. you know, we've got both parties in a position to negotiate this is what we want, this is what we elected and they're doing everything they can to not pay attention to that and to go to their separate corners and to be separate and to pretend that their way is not the only way. >> and it could result in people being called into, like, their supervisor's offices and their supervisor goes, i'm sorry, people are actually losing jobs because of this. >> but is there what the people voted for? there are some that think this is what the president voted for. >> how can you think that the american people didn't vote for this? >> let me get to these economical reports. there are a number on today'
taxes go up, then you go the republicans in position where they're getting the lower taxes. then patti murray. >> i just hope that people are paying attention that what we are seeing is basically the best world for politicians, they put off the and then everybody is going to pretend, oh, it's something happened. and nobody in the meantime is representing the interest of the american people. you know, we've got both parties in a position to negotiate this is what we want, this is what we...
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there's brand-new 3.9% medicare tax on high wage earners and a tax for wealthy donations. primarily between house republicans and the obama white house in the senate. but a survey done by northern trust of high net worth individuals' priorities found 44% saying their top priority for the country is economic growth and reducing unemployment versus 19% for reducing the federal budget deficit. another 15% said they wanted to see an end to gridlock. good luck. now, as far as their own wealth preservation strategies. that same survey found high net worth persons, those with $5 million or more in assets, obviously much more proactive in anticipating the tax consequences of going over the cliff than those with $1 million or less in assets. simon? >> okay, hampton, busy days. hampton pearson there in washington. straight ahead, a looming port strike that could cost the u.s. economy billions of dollars. the mayor of houston will join us live to tell us how this strike will affect her cities and cities right along the east coast. "squawk on the street" will be right back. off vietna
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the tax policy center has a tax calculator. so it allows you to estimate how your family could be affected. josh levs is here in atlanta breaking down the different scenarios. the only thing you can't say is i'm going to start a drinking game. don't say kick the can down the road. jifs not going to use that phrase. i have been covering this at cnn.com and doing everything i can to avoid saying things like that. the figure a lot of people know if you know any figure is $2,000 because president obama says it a lot. the average family will end up spending $2,000 more if the fiscal cliff is not averted. let me show you something. you can find out how it would impact you directly by using this. there's a lot of numbers you have to plug in to make sense of it. obviously it can't be exact, it can't be precise, it can't predict the future, but i want to show you some examples we have pulled out. let's go to the graphic here that has a few of the examples we're showing you here. it would take, for example, this scenario, married with no
the tax policy center has a tax calculator. so it allows you to estimate how your family could be affected. josh levs is here in atlanta breaking down the different scenarios. the only thing you can't say is i'm going to start a drinking game. don't say kick the can down the road. jifs not going to use that phrase. i have been covering this at cnn.com and doing everything i can to avoid saying things like that. the figure a lot of people know if you know any figure is $2,000 because president...
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we are talking about every american's tax rates who pays taxes, talking about the extension of unemployment, the estate tax this has more elements in it than most things do i think at the end of the day, you know, in the senate now, i think the senate will come to some sort of arrangement, they will push it over here and then i think the house will be the decisive arena, a lot will depend, obviously, on what the senate agrees to >> isn't that the question what will happen in the house? i don't think we have a concern, maybe i shouldn't stay quite that way, the house seems to be the clear focus on whether or not republicans can muster the votes needed. what is going to happen? >> a lot depends on the nature of the agree weren't, remember on the speakers a plan b, he had over 200 republican votes are, it is not as if he doesn't have an awfully strong hand to play. if it's a deal that john boehner can accept, then frankly, i think it will be passed in a bipartisan manner with a very strong majority. if, on the other hand, he is either neutral or not favorable, then his chances are going to be
we are talking about every american's tax rates who pays taxes, talking about the extension of unemployment, the estate tax this has more elements in it than most things do i think at the end of the day, you know, in the senate now, i think the senate will come to some sort of arrangement, they will push it over here and then i think the house will be the decisive arena, a lot will depend, obviously, on what the senate agrees to >> isn't that the question what will happen in the house? i...
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because you have to add both the obama care tax that's coming and the tax, the disappearing bush tax increase and this hits primarily as you know, small business owners and people who file subchapter s corporations. >> that's not who is primarily hits, it hits some of those people. >> over half of all the small business income that ends up paying this higher rate, if you do it. and the last time we did this, more than two-thirds of the people who got hit, were actually the subchapter s corporation. i think it would have a very significant effect. the other effect it has is that we're not cutting spending because we're spending too much money. and that sends a very bad signal. if we're not going to do entitlement reform, because every time we talk about it obama says let's raise taxes instead. we're dealing with tens of trillions of dollars in unfunded liabilities, in four years obama has done nothing on entitlement reform. nothing for four years. what has he done? chirped about raising taxes on rich people. raising taxes on rich people is what obama talks about instead of doing his j
because you have to add both the obama care tax that's coming and the tax, the disappearing bush tax increase and this hits primarily as you know, small business owners and people who file subchapter s corporations. >> that's not who is primarily hits, it hits some of those people. >> over half of all the small business income that ends up paying this higher rate, if you do it. and the last time we did this, more than two-thirds of the people who got hit, were actually the...
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about whether to raise taxes, tax rates on anybody. you're going to begin to see this conversation as the conversation moves forward. the rifts in the democratic party about what programs should be cut and what programs should be saved. and i think that's a little of what you're seeing now. i don't know if it's enough to sort of throw the whole deal out. i think only those folks -- you did hear the folks, senator mcconnell saying i've called my friend joe biden, can he get to the president. it's clear that the democrats are saying that the president is the one who won't -- you know, who doesn't want to put up a counteroffer. so we'll see. >> changes by the hour. >> candy crowley, thank you as always, we'll be in touch. >> all eyes continue to be in washington as the cliff gets closer, the president insists 0 a tax hike for the rich. but the republicans won't budge. something has got to give. a.b. stoddard weighs in. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. omnipotent of opportunity. you know how to mix business... with business. and
about whether to raise taxes, tax rates on anybody. you're going to begin to see this conversation as the conversation moves forward. the rifts in the democratic party about what programs should be cut and what programs should be saved. and i think that's a little of what you're seeing now. i don't know if it's enough to sort of throw the whole deal out. i think only those folks -- you did hear the folks, senator mcconnell saying i've called my friend joe biden, can he get to the president....
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the tax rate. no matter what it is on the rich or not on the rich will not solve the big huge impending doom. >> that's right exactly right. you said it. the latest proposal from the president, of course, did not have the kind of long and short-term and mid term spending reform that we need. the federal government right now is it as we all know, spending more than a trillion dollars year upon year since the president took office, more than a trillion over budget year upon year. that has to stop. >> and you are putting faith in harry reid to come back with some proposal that will meet that in the next six days? where are you? >>ist a good question. senator reid without the past two years has not worked in -- in any very productive way with the house majority. and we do in the house represent the american people, at least as much as the senate majority does and we do need to work together and you are right. we have had roadblocks and obstructions and ignoring the bills we sent over time and time agai
the tax rate. no matter what it is on the rich or not on the rich will not solve the big huge impending doom. >> that's right exactly right. you said it. the latest proposal from the president, of course, did not have the kind of long and short-term and mid term spending reform that we need. the federal government right now is it as we all know, spending more than a trillion dollars year upon year since the president took office, more than a trillion over budget year upon year. that has...
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that's an extra $900 before taxes. currently members of congress make $174,000 a year except for leaders who make a little more. the last time lawmakers got a pay raise was in 2009. >>> this morning, i want to tell you about the fact that we know the name of a man pushed to his death at a new york city subway station now. he's identified as 46-year-old dusend. a sketch of the suspect. she's described as a heavy set woman in her 20s who was wearing a ski jacket and sneakers. poppy harlow has more on the investigation for us. >> it was horrible. >> reporter: this man says he heard the final scream of the victim. james callanan's train was halted. >> they said last stop on the train, debris fell on the tracks. >> reporter: witnesses say the victim was standing on the edge of this subway platform in queens when a woman who was pacing and talking to herself pushed him on the tracks. surveillance footage captured this woman running from the station. police are searching for the woman they describe as heavy set in her 20s wea
that's an extra $900 before taxes. currently members of congress make $174,000 a year except for leaders who make a little more. the last time lawmakers got a pay raise was in 2009. >>> this morning, i want to tell you about the fact that we know the name of a man pushed to his death at a new york city subway station now. he's identified as 46-year-old dusend. a sketch of the suspect. she's described as a heavy set woman in her 20s who was wearing a ski jacket and sneakers. poppy...
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, instead just voting to reinstate a tax cut, that then it sort of president obama's tax cut so he gets credit for that. >> do you have any sense of what will happen around that table today? who called the meeting if there's an agenda or are they going to sit around and stare at each other until one of them blinks? >> we don't have a sense. i'm sure that we will be getting a sense. this is supposed to take place at 3:00 p.m. at the white house. the vice president, president and four top congressional leaders. we don't know what will be said. i think we will likely hear from some camps afterwards. >> if you are wondering what a trip down the fiscal cliff might mean for your paycheck, for your 401(k), look no further than yesterday's dow. at the opening bell, a dive of more than 1%. investors finding little hope for the fiscal cliff compromise on capitol hill. when word came down two sides might be meeting. reversal of fortune. the dow rebounding for a while before finishing slightly lower. >>> a nation this morning remembering the american general credited with orchestrating one of the m
, instead just voting to reinstate a tax cut, that then it sort of president obama's tax cut so he gets credit for that. >> do you have any sense of what will happen around that table today? who called the meeting if there's an agenda or are they going to sit around and stare at each other until one of them blinks? >> we don't have a sense. i'm sure that we will be getting a sense. this is supposed to take place at 3:00 p.m. at the white house. the vice president, president and four...
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the majority leader harry reid said he's readying a bill for a vote on monday to prevent a tax hike on incomes up to $250,000. senator reid said his bill will include all the additional elements the president outlined, including long-term unemployment benefits, the continuation of those. that would be a plan b that would be a plan b for democrats. what they would rather do is get a bill with senator reid working in conjunction with senator mcconnell. senator reid says he is awaiting good faith proposals from the republicans. president obama said after the meeting he is modestly optimistic a deal can be reached. and an extension of long-term unemployment benefits. and that's of course for the long-term unemployed as well as what's known as a dock fix which has to do with medicare payments to doctors. that's where we are. we don't expect anything big in the next 24 hours, but this is after all washington. right now, it's time for piers morgan tonight. >> tonight, tyler perry is a successful writer, director, actor. >> she told me you're the best interviewer in the world, so i'm worried.
the majority leader harry reid said he's readying a bill for a vote on monday to prevent a tax hike on incomes up to $250,000. senator reid said his bill will include all the additional elements the president outlined, including long-term unemployment benefits, the continuation of those. that would be a plan b that would be a plan b for democrats. what they would rather do is get a bill with senator reid working in conjunction with senator mcconnell. senator reid says he is awaiting good faith...
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he's all about taxes. he has this mandate on taxes. the spending cuts, the need to get us out of this mess, he hasn't been serious about those, and then that's unfortunate. so, you know, i think where mick and i may be part company is this needs the big deal. i'm okay to say, president, you won. you can tax these rich people you seem to dislike so much, but, you know what? come up with spending cuts. we're borrowing ail trillion dollars a year, and he's not. >> i want to show you one of the our latest polls, and the question was which party should compromise more? 53% thought the republicans should compromise more, and 41% said the democrats. so it's not just the president won. you've seen poll after poll. they blame republicans if their taxes go up. you don't want anyone's taxes to go up, and yet, you are admitting here, saying i think everybody's taxes are going up. >> i don't know it's a question of who should compromise more? we recognize in order to get to a compromise. the question is who is supposed to lead? the president is the
he's all about taxes. he has this mandate on taxes. the spending cuts, the need to get us out of this mess, he hasn't been serious about those, and then that's unfortunate. so, you know, i think where mick and i may be part company is this needs the big deal. i'm okay to say, president, you won. you can tax these rich people you seem to dislike so much, but, you know what? come up with spending cuts. we're borrowing ail trillion dollars a year, and he's not. >> i want to show you one of...
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the cliff won't just stop at taxes. some fear banks will tighten up on consumer lending, meaning you might not be able to get the new loan for a car or a home. with me now is sheila bair, the former chairman of the fdic and author of the new book "take the bullhe horns." thanks for coming on with me. >> thanks for having me. >> president obama met with top party leaders friday saying he was moderately optimistic. with your washington negotiation experience, where do you really think they are in the process? are you really any closer to a deal, or is this just more posturing? >> i think this whole mess is really embarrassing spectacle. this should have been resolved long ago, and i do think, actually, they are going to get a deal, but i think it will be more along the lines of kicking the can down the road. i don't think, at least from this point what i'm hearing, we'll get meaningful debt reduction. certainly mot month-onot meaninx reform. perhaps a permanent restructure of the tax reforms those making under $150,000. t
the cliff won't just stop at taxes. some fear banks will tighten up on consumer lending, meaning you might not be able to get the new loan for a car or a home. with me now is sheila bair, the former chairman of the fdic and author of the new book "take the bullhe horns." thanks for coming on with me. >> thanks for having me. >> president obama met with top party leaders friday saying he was moderately optimistic. with your washington negotiation experience, where do you...
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the president's tax plan he campaigned on for five years which is to let the tax plan expire for households making less than $250,000. he would add unemployment insurance. the thinking here is he would potentially also add extending the estate tax cut. the estate tax has been at a relatively low level. it expires also at the ipd of the year. but, you know, this is all you know, to'ing and fro'ing right now to see if it's possible to pass anything to keep most americans' taxes where they are before the end of the year when everybody's tax go up. >> we heard from senator reid earlier today. they were dealing, in his words, with a dictatorship. are we expected to hear from him or any of the players from the hill in terms of trying to move this forward, whether it's publicly, in the public arena or privately? >> we are. we're told we should expect to hear from the senate republican leader mitch mcconnell. the senate is in and he will likely take to the floor we're told and give a status report from his perspective. what we're talking about right now in the senate is whether or not the democrats
the president's tax plan he campaigned on for five years which is to let the tax plan expire for households making less than $250,000. he would add unemployment insurance. the thinking here is he would potentially also add extending the estate tax cut. the estate tax has been at a relatively low level. it expires also at the ipd of the year. but, you know, this is all you know, to'ing and fro'ing right now to see if it's possible to pass anything to keep most americans' taxes where they are...
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capital gains taxes increasing from 15% to 20% pre-bush tax levels. then estate taxes going as high as 55% with the $1 million exemption and currently the 35% with a $5 million exemption so we're definitely going to see a big change coming forward. >> so when will we feel it? >> well we won't feel it until 2014, when the majority of it, when the individuals file their 2013 taxes. the payroll tax cut was for individuals earning $50,000 a year, might fill a lessen in their total check in january, the majority not until 2014. >> so is there any way you can avoid higher taxes, any tricks? >> well essentially what individuals are doing is almost like a reverse philosophy, where previously individuals wanted to take as many deductions as they are right now to reduce their taxable base but individuals what they're realizing income levels if they can figure out how to accelerate their income now and take the deductions next year, for instance, using, making their charitable deductions, if you haven't made them already, make them next year and take that deduct
capital gains taxes increasing from 15% to 20% pre-bush tax levels. then estate taxes going as high as 55% with the $1 million exemption and currently the 35% with a $5 million exemption so we're definitely going to see a big change coming forward. >> so when will we feel it? >> well we won't feel it until 2014, when the majority of it, when the individuals file their 2013 taxes. the payroll tax cut was for individuals earning $50,000 a year, might fill a lessen in their total check...
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the alternative minimum tax. a lot of money that they're scrambling to find as they also deal with the tax issues. so it's really going to depend on what those numbers look like and boehner doesn't entirely have a sense until he has a senate proposal to try to sell to his house side. >> i just want to remind our viewers, we will join fareed zakaria, "gps" in progress as we watch the senate floor and the senate in general. for any signs of progress. there used to be the hastert rule, a majority of the majority, most republicans, in this case they're at majority, must support a bill before denny hastert would put it on the house floor. i don't get a sense that's where speaker boehner is. >> you could imagine a scenario where the house could pass an agreement that's reached in the senate, with a minority of republicans and dozens of democrats make up the difference. that would essentially be john boehner falling on his sword, diving on the grenade and giving up his speakership. you know, democrats might say this wou
the alternative minimum tax. a lot of money that they're scrambling to find as they also deal with the tax issues. so it's really going to depend on what those numbers look like and boehner doesn't entirely have a sense until he has a senate proposal to try to sell to his house side. >> i just want to remind our viewers, we will join fareed zakaria, "gps" in progress as we watch the senate floor and the senate in general. for any signs of progress. there used to be the hastert...
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it will hurt every taxpayer, the largest tax increase in history. it will affect everybody, and anyone who is watching who thinks, oh this isn't going to impact me, you will fin out d o will, and we know the problem is a lot of spending. not that we're not taxing people more, we're just spending too much. we hope that the president understands that as for as republicans are concerned, we're willing to negotiate and have a civil conversation, but also he's got to bring in some spending cuts and tax reform, because americans want tax reform and we don't want to hurt the economy, and, look there, are not enough millionaires in the united states to tax them all to be able to spend our way out of this problem. so let's -- let's give up a little bit -- each side can concede a little. and i think we can fin middle ground. i'm optimistic. >> we had your colleague nan hayworth last hour. she was expecting work to be done in the senate. the house did its best, boehner did his best, now it's up to the senate to come up with something. is that your position now
it will hurt every taxpayer, the largest tax increase in history. it will affect everybody, and anyone who is watching who thinks, oh this isn't going to impact me, you will fin out d o will, and we know the problem is a lot of spending. not that we're not taxing people more, we're just spending too much. we hope that the president understands that as for as republicans are concerned, we're willing to negotiate and have a civil conversation, but also he's got to bring in some spending cuts and...
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politically, members of congress will have to vet on tax cuts as opposed to now which are tax increases which are much harder to take. >> that's right. because the tax hikes will happen whether or not congress acts, so the school of thought here is that if republicans and temp kratz were to allow this just to happen, then they could vote for infect only tax cuts, not be on the record voting for tax hikes. now for the very staunch anti tax folks, it's unclear if that would really pass muster with them, but certainly this is something being considered you know, dana. >> absolutely. i'm sure the markets won't know that. brianna, good to see you. while in hawaii, president obama and first lady michelle obama paid their respects to late senator daniel inouye. inouye died last week from a respiratory illness. he was 88 years old. following that the president went to visit the grave of his old grandfather who is buried at the very same cemetery. >> he will be missed and remembered, as he was on sunday. >>> christmas eve, of course. crunch time for holiday travelers. a big storm out west, delay
politically, members of congress will have to vet on tax cuts as opposed to now which are tax increases which are much harder to take. >> that's right. because the tax hikes will happen whether or not congress acts, so the school of thought here is that if republicans and temp kratz were to allow this just to happen, then they could vote for infect only tax cuts, not be on the record voting for tax hikes. now for the very staunch anti tax folks, it's unclear if that would really pass...
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we're going to see a lot of tax changes. payroll tax holiday. that would expire, and that means that the amount taken out of your paycheck would go from 4.2% to 6.2%, so that means if you're making $50,000 a year, it means $83 a month comes out of your paycheck. over the cliff it means you have a delay in tax refunds for the 2012 returns and that's because there's yet to be a decision made. also at stake, spending cuts. that can impact jobs. there will be big cuts to defense. that could put about 300,000 jobs at risk. unemployment benefits are cut, meaning about 2 million long-term unemployed run out of benefits. let's not forget the doctors in this. they face a 20% cut to payments for treating medicare he patients. that's a small sampling. i haven't mentioned the overall impact to the economy. company cans will continue holding off on hiring even more than now. many people believe we'll go into a reception, and the list seems to go on and on. if you want to read more about this, go to cnnmoney. it breaks it all down. they get into the numbers f
we're going to see a lot of tax changes. payroll tax holiday. that would expire, and that means that the amount taken out of your paycheck would go from 4.2% to 6.2%, so that means if you're making $50,000 a year, it means $83 a month comes out of your paycheck. over the cliff it means you have a delay in tax refunds for the 2012 returns and that's because there's yet to be a decision made. also at stake, spending cuts. that can impact jobs. there will be big cuts to defense. that could put...
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raising taxes for everybody making more than $250,000 a year and adding a few other tax-related items in there. maybe spending but it's unclear. the question is whether or not they can put all that together in a way to get enough republican votes in order to pass the senate and then would have to have enough votes to pass the house as well. whether they can do that in the next few days is an open question. >> just procedurally too, that takes time. and congress notoriously moves slowly. one wall street economist suggested, and this caught my attention, bun ji jump off the cliff. meaning we'll bounce back afterwards meaning once the tax hikes goes into effect congress will have no choice. they will have to introduce a bill that everyone can agree on. what's your take on that. what are your congressional sources saying to you privately? >> they are saying the betting money is on that right noug. it's an interesting way to put it. the whole concept of taking a vote in the next five days on anything would effectively would be to raise taxes. each of the senators would be taking a vote tha
raising taxes for everybody making more than $250,000 a year and adding a few other tax-related items in there. maybe spending but it's unclear. the question is whether or not they can put all that together in a way to get enough republican votes in order to pass the senate and then would have to have enough votes to pass the house as well. whether they can do that in the next few days is an open question. >> just procedurally too, that takes time. and congress notoriously moves slowly....
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we're now just seven days away from tax hikes for pretty much all americans. spending cuts that could break millions of families' budgets, and it could launch the economy back into a recession. president obama spent christmas eve playing golf with friends in hawaii, and right now the senate looks like the last hope for neglect getting past the fiscal krif. want to go to the white house correspondent briana keilar who is traveling with the first family in honolulu. any discusses at all that you're hearing from from sources in either party right now? >> reporter: some discussions, but they are not really surprising ones, dana right now we understand that the white house is talking with senate democrats, and this is exactly what you would expect ahead of the senate reconvening on the 27th when it's really up to senate majority leader harry reid to try to figure out some sort of measure that can get some republican support in the senate and some republican support in the house in the hopes of averting the fiscal cliff. this is really a bit of a last-ditch effort,
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mainly trying to find a way to avoid those tax hikes for most americans. that could also include an extension of unemployment benefits. what is unclear is whether other things such as budget cuts eliminating that sequester that's coming up or other things will be in that deal. when will all of this happen? the soon they could vote is tomorrow, but leadership tells us that they are just hoping to get the outlines of a deal to their members tomorrow so a vote also possible monday. that's when senator reid has said he wants the vote to hap n happen. again, just to be clear, we don't think anything on the sequester will be in this deal at this point or the debt ceiling. those are other issues floating around. right now this deal seems more focused and small. let's listen to what the two senators were saying last night, sounding more optimistic. >> it was a very positive meeting. there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is. it was a very serious meeting and it took an extended period of time, as you all know, waiting for u
mainly trying to find a way to avoid those tax hikes for most americans. that could also include an extension of unemployment benefits. what is unclear is whether other things such as budget cuts eliminating that sequester that's coming up or other things will be in that deal. when will all of this happen? the soon they could vote is tomorrow, but leadership tells us that they are just hoping to get the outlines of a deal to their members tomorrow so a vote also possible monday. that's when...
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. >> that's with the $250,000 and under keeping their tax rate. everybody else gets a tax hike? >> i live in an alternate reality. the grew of age in politics in the clinton administration and watched pelosi and harry reid vote for tax increases under bill clinton that are the taxes we would go back to if we do nothing. at the same time, i watched nancy pelosi lead the charge against the bush tax cuts that ultimately now they want to keep 98% of. the truth is if we go over the cliff on a tax basis, we're only going back to the clinton era taxes. if we don't change spending, we're going to stay over the cliff. even if we go back to the clinton tax rates, the clinton tax rates, which is what the cliff is described as, you still have nearly half a trillion dollars a year, $5 trillion over ten years worth of deficit. that's because while we grew the -- under bush the taxes revenue went up 25%, and spending went up 100% in the last 12 years. if you put back the revenue from the higher taxes, you still have a deficit. that's what we're trying to change. >> we kind of are where we are,
. >> that's with the $250,000 and under keeping their tax rate. everybody else gets a tax hike? >> i live in an alternate reality. the grew of age in politics in the clinton administration and watched pelosi and harry reid vote for tax increases under bill clinton that are the taxes we would go back to if we do nothing. at the same time, i watched nancy pelosi lead the charge against the bush tax cuts that ultimately now they want to keep 98% of. the truth is if we go over the cliff...
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all the bush tax cuts, all of them will expire with taxes going up an average of $1600 per household. the payroll tax holiday also expires. that means the tax burden will go up an average $z700 per household extra. extended unemployment benefits expire so collection shrinks from 93 weeks to 26 weeks. the medicare doc fix expires, that means a 27% cut in physician payments. the alternative minimum tax expands to 27 million more americans and obama care taxes hit, meaning a 0.9% jump in the medicare payroll tax for those earning $200,000 or more. but what about the house of representatives? they left town after republicans failed to bring a vote on their own plan b last week. ohio republican congressman steve latourette seems kpas rat -- kpas rated about all of this. you're on your way out and you repudiated the norquist pledge which you signed back in 1994. tell me why? >> well, i repudiated it because, listen, it's not 1994 anymore. the world has moved on. we have the euro, we've had september 11th, a lot of things have happened. and quite frankly, this calls for a big solution. it ca
all the bush tax cuts, all of them will expire with taxes going up an average of $1600 per household. the payroll tax holiday also expires. that means the tax burden will go up an average $z700 per household extra. extended unemployment benefits expire so collection shrinks from 93 weeks to 26 weeks. the medicare doc fix expires, that means a 27% cut in physician payments. the alternative minimum tax expands to 27 million more americans and obama care taxes hit, meaning a 0.9% jump in the...
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big cuts in the pentagon and big tax hikes. the white house, from all indications that i've seen, they don't want that to happen. they are scared of what could happen to the markets. >> why aren't they dalg dealing with boehner? dana, be go ahead. jumpb in here. >> i think they won their negotiating power once boehner last week failed. as dana pushed out, the only thing that can get boehner is to do something. >> reporter: i think that you're right when i said that democrats don't think that the president will have much political damage. that does seem to be coming more from democrats here in congress than in the white house. democrats here in congress feel that it's a win-win for them politically. the one thing i will tell you very quickly, the pushback on this narrative that i heard from senate republican leader in the hallway. he said, do you remember who the speaker was during the hoover administration? i said, no. he said, that's my point. nobody will remember who the speaker was if ge into a recession but it's the preside
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cut, increases in other taxes on families like the alternative minimum tax and the expiration of the payroll tax holiday, there's this to think of, for 2 million unemployed worker, the loss of unemployment benefits. we have asked experts to join us for a fiscal cliff roundtable discussion, if you will. ron brownstein is a senior -- cnn senior political analyst and editorial director of the national journal and stephen moore, senior economics writer at the "wall street journal" and is in washington, d.c. first up, ron, will, do you think, these politicians reach a deal or not and why or why not? >> the fiscal cliff was yeelted as a doomsday machine to try to give them more will power to do what they can't do on their own, to reach a deal. the reason all of this was here, incentive to reach a deal, some of your guests pointed out during the day, a lot can go wrong when you leave is it to this late, a little little surprising to me republicans don't feel urgency, talk about this in a minute, maybe, the wolf on the other side of the cliff, difficult for both sides, the country is worse f
cut, increases in other taxes on families like the alternative minimum tax and the expiration of the payroll tax holiday, there's this to think of, for 2 million unemployed worker, the loss of unemployment benefits. we have asked experts to join us for a fiscal cliff roundtable discussion, if you will. ron brownstein is a senior -- cnn senior political analyst and editorial director of the national journal and stephen moore, senior economics writer at the "wall street journal" and is...
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president of americans for tax reform. norquist's pledge, signed by almost all republicans in congress, forbids signatories from raising taxes ever, under any circumstances. things come to a head in the summer of 2011. republicans demand the government reduce its deficit as a condition for raising the nation's debt ceiling. without a deal, the u.s. would lose its ability to borrow money. both democrats and republicans deploy scorched earth tactics that nearly shut down the government and ultimately cost america its aaa credit rating for the first time in history. >>> but in a last minnesota minute compromise, both sides agree to $1 trillion in spending cuts up front, and another $1.2 trillion in cuts to be decided by a special congressional super committee. but a poison pill was attached. if the super committee can't reach a deal, automatic across the board cuts known as the sequester would go into effect, starting january 2013. at the exact moment when those bush tax cuts extended for two years, if you remember, would exp
president of americans for tax reform. norquist's pledge, signed by almost all republicans in congress, forbids signatories from raising taxes ever, under any circumstances. things come to a head in the summer of 2011. republicans demand the government reduce its deficit as a condition for raising the nation's debt ceiling. without a deal, the u.s. would lose its ability to borrow money. both democrats and republicans deploy scorched earth tactics that nearly shut down the government and...
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raised the capital gains tax, the top marginal tax rates, but also tax increases distract from what the country needs to do. we need to deal with our runaway government spending. the government is spending too much money. tax increases are not part of cutting the budget. tax increases are what politicians do instead of reform the government. as long as tax increases are on the table, the politicians never even think about reforming government. >> and i understand. you have been on this fight for a long time and you've been devoted to the whole idea of not seeing taxes increase anywhere. but what we're down to right now is largely a political battle over the increase in marginal tax rates based on what you earn. i understand there's a lot more to this puzzle, but on that front, because that's the one that gets most of the ink around here, whether people who earn more than $250,000 or $400,000 or $1 million should may-pay more tax. the point is that's not going to hurt the economy. that's all we're talking about. paying 4.6%, 8 points higher on your income over $250,000, empirically t
raised the capital gains tax, the top marginal tax rates, but also tax increases distract from what the country needs to do. we need to deal with our runaway government spending. the government is spending too much money. tax increases are not part of cutting the budget. tax increases are what politicians do instead of reform the government. as long as tax increases are on the table, the politicians never even think about reforming government. >> and i understand. you have been on this...
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that's an extra $900 before taxes. currently members of congress make $174,000 a year except for leaders who make a little more. the last time there was a pay raise was 2009. >>> there is one thing the senate has agreed on, getting aid to victims of superstorm sandy. by a 61-33 vote the chamber passed a measure offering $60 billion in help. it heads to the house which must approve the bill by thursday or else the process to consider the money has to start all over again. at least 113 people were killed when superstorm sandy hit in late october. the governors of new york and new jersey, the hardest hit states, have estimated damages at more than $78 billion. >>> and turning to weather. even though winter is just over a week old, millions of americans probably can't wait for spring to arrive. me, as well, yes. scenes like this in maine are playing out all across the country as snow is now on the ground in almost 65% of the lower 48 states. at least everybody's enjoying it together. look at this video from arkansas where
that's an extra $900 before taxes. currently members of congress make $174,000 a year except for leaders who make a little more. the last time there was a pay raise was 2009. >>> there is one thing the senate has agreed on, getting aid to victims of superstorm sandy. by a 61-33 vote the chamber passed a measure offering $60 billion in help. it heads to the house which must approve the bill by thursday or else the process to consider the money has to start all over again. at least 113...
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>> i think raising the capital gains tax, raising the dividend tax, raising the estate tax, raising taxes on small businesses, is a disaster for the economy, it's too fragile. >> that's not true at all. all the research shows that actually the economic activity is not that sensitive to tax rates at the top of the income distribution -- >> that's not true, it's the opposite. >> i'm sorry -- >>> the economy's highly sensitive, that's why countries around the world have been cutting their tax rates. >> we grew faster when we had higher tax rates. >> let's just do it another reality check on this. which is that, whether we go over the cliff or have a scaled-down deal, we've got two things looming, a debt ceiling in probably two months which republicans will no doubt use as leverage. we still don't have a grand bargain that deals with deficit and debt by taking on tax reform and entitlement reform. what rational reason, stephen, first you, should we have that that other kick the can to another situation we're about to go off a cliff would produce any different result from a new congress? >> i'
>> i think raising the capital gains tax, raising the dividend tax, raising the estate tax, raising taxes on small businesses, is a disaster for the economy, it's too fragile. >> that's not true at all. all the research shows that actually the economic activity is not that sensitive to tax rates at the top of the income distribution -- >> that's not true, it's the opposite. >> i'm sorry -- >>> the economy's highly sensitive, that's why countries around the world...
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now, the majority leader senator reid said he's readying a bill for a vote on monday to prevent a tax hike on incomes up to $250,000. senator reid said his bill will include all of the additional provisions that the president outlined that include long-term unemployment benefits, a continuation of those. that would be sort of the plan b for democrats simply because what they would rather do is get a bill with senator reid working in conjunction with senator mcconnell. senator reid said he's awaiting good faith proposals from the republicans. president obama said after the meeting that he is modestly optimistic a deal can be reached, but as you can hear from senator reid, the president asked that if a deal between republicans and democrats cannot be reached, then the president wants just an up or down vote on what he wants, which is quite simply no income tax rates going up for people making $250,000 and under. and an extension of long-term unemployment benefits. and that's of course for the long-term unemployed as well as what's known as a dock fix which has to do with medicare paymen
now, the majority leader senator reid said he's readying a bill for a vote on monday to prevent a tax hike on incomes up to $250,000. senator reid said his bill will include all of the additional provisions that the president outlined that include long-term unemployment benefits, a continuation of those. that would be sort of the plan b for democrats simply because what they would rather do is get a bill with senator reid working in conjunction with senator mcconnell. senator reid said he's...
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lower taxes versus more of a social safety net. and every time they come close to a deal, it falls apart because they have this fundamental disagreement about ideas. that's how we got here. they cannot agree on this basic notionation over this idealogical divide in america. >> what happens next? how likely it is we will go over the fiscal cliff. i'm curious what the mood is like in washington, d.c. right now? >> there's an infinitesimal improvement in washington because of the meeting today, but i still would say the odds, the people placing bets in this town still expect that the nation will go over the fiscal cliff. still a little more hope than when we woke up this morning, but no one is counting on being off on new year's eve. >> jessica, thanks. more now on the raw politics with "new york times" columnist raffle, and cornell belcher. the president said he wanted to see a straight up or down vote. as we mentioned, that will happen on monday in the senate. he could lose that up or down vote. >> what you're likely to see is somet
lower taxes versus more of a social safety net. and every time they come close to a deal, it falls apart because they have this fundamental disagreement about ideas. that's how we got here. they cannot agree on this basic notionation over this idealogical divide in america. >> what happens next? how likely it is we will go over the fiscal cliff. i'm curious what the mood is like in washington, d.c. right now? >> there's an infinitesimal improvement in washington because of the...
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and the estate tax, whether there would be a specific to keep the estate tax from going up. now, as we know, reid and mcconnell are going to work out an agreement. the next element of this is that the president said if senators reid and mcconnell cannot come to a deal, the president did ask that republicans allow his alternate proposal come to a vote, the $250,000 measure. because the white house believes and democrats broadly believe that that could pass in both the house and the senate, candy. >> so jessica yellin is watching this from the white house as we await the president. i want to give you a couple of statements that we got up on capitol hill. these from senator reid and senator mcconnell, the respectively majority and minority leaders in the senate. the two men who are going to be talking over the next 24 hours to try to fix this fiscal cliff thing. here's what they had to say. >> we had a long meeting in the white house it was very constructive. i hope that the next 24 hours will be very instructive with what we're able to accomplish. >> was there discussion of a
and the estate tax, whether there would be a specific to keep the estate tax from going up. now, as we know, reid and mcconnell are going to work out an agreement. the next element of this is that the president said if senators reid and mcconnell cannot come to a deal, the president did ask that republicans allow his alternate proposal come to a vote, the $250,000 measure. because the white house believes and democrats broadly believe that that could pass in both the house and the senate,...
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so there is absolutely no rea n reason, none, not to protect these americans from a tax hike. at the very least, let's agree right now what we already agree on. let's get that done. >> what the president has offered so far simply won't do anything to solve our spending problem and begin to address our nation's crippling debt. instead, he wants more spending, more tax hikes that will hurt our economy. >> bottom line, right now we're hearing a lot less talk about some sort of a grand bargain. and instead, maybe some stopgap measures to give some certainty to americans before that end of the year deadline. randi? >> and is it just the taxes that's holding out the agreement or something more at this point? >> it's hard to know exactly. it seems like the biggest sticking point that we are hearing discussed publicly remains those taxes. $250,000 that americans make before their tax, 400,000, $1 million, that number has been shifted back and forth a little bit over the past week. what we've seen still hasn't given us any sure answers. randi? >> what's the hope here at this point? whe
so there is absolutely no rea n reason, none, not to protect these americans from a tax hike. at the very least, let's agree right now what we already agree on. let's get that done. >> what the president has offered so far simply won't do anything to solve our spending problem and begin to address our nation's crippling debt. instead, he wants more spending, more tax hikes that will hurt our economy. >> bottom line, right now we're hearing a lot less talk about some sort of a grand...